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Mass Culture Podcast

Where curiosity meets the future of cultural work

The Mass Culture Podcast invites listeners into conversations that illuminate the systems, relationships, and ideas shaping arts and culture today.

In season 1, we will bring together voices from across the country to explore how we can work collectively toward a more sustainable, equitable, and connected arts ecosystem by reimagining public arts funding in Canada.

Hosted by Mass Culture and presented in partnership with The Arts Firm.

Robin Sokoloski and Michelle Chawla smile mid-conversation during the recording of this podcast.
Robin Sokoloski (left) and Michelle Chawla (right) recording the pilot episode. Photo by Michael Morreale, The Arts Firm.
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Episode 2 – A Bank for the Arts: Why Canadian Arts Orgs Need Their Own Financial Tools

What if the biggest challenge facing arts and culture isn’t just a lack of funding, but a failure of the financial systems surrounding them? In this episode of the Mass Culture Podcast, host Michelle Yeung sits down with systems change experts Jamie Bennett and Rudy Ruttimann to explore the provocative concept of a “Bank for the Arts.” While most arts organizations are expected to operate professionally and plan years into the future, they are systematically denied access to basic financial tools like lines of credit and affordable mortgages without personal guarantees.

This conversation is essential for arts administrators, cultural policy makers, and creative entrepreneurs who are tired of the “scarcity mindset.” You will learn why traditional banks fail to understand the business cycles of the cultural sector, how the current system downloads financial risk onto individual artists’ personal credit, and what a “circular economy” in the arts could look like if we built our own financial infrastructure.

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Episode 1 – Evolving Public Arts Funding: Balancing Equity, Trust, and Sustainability

In this episode of the Mass Culture Podcast, Robin Sokoloski speaks with Michelle Chawla, Director and CEO of the Canada Council for the Arts, about the current state of public arts funding in Canada. Their discussion explores how funding models are shifting to better support equity in the arts, strengthen cultural sustainability, and build trust between funders, artists, and arts organizations. Together, they reflect on the evolving role of public funders, the balance between project and core funding, and how cultural policy can foster a more inclusive and resilient arts ecosystem.

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